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How Well Does PRESTO Support For Apple Watch And iPhone Work? Let’s Find Out!

Posted in Commentary with tags on July 28, 2024 by itnerd

After I wrote this how to guide that details how to add your PRESTO transit card to your Apple Watch and iPhone, I got a number of emails asking about how well things worked. So in the interest of science, I left my car at home on Saturday to visit two clients and pick up some items from a bike shop. With that out of the way, let’s get to it.

I started from my suburban Toronto home and walked over to the subway station. There, I used my Apple Watch to get into the station.

Now the PRESTO card readers in the stations are on the right side, which means that using an Apple Watch requires you to go across your body to tap your Apple Watch on the reader if you wear your watch on your left wrist. That’s likely a non issue for most. But coming from a guy that has broken both collarbones, it’s not exactly comfortable. One thing I need to note is that I have Express Transit Mode enabled so that all I have to do is tap my Apple Watch and go. I feel comfortable having Express Transit Mode enabled for the Apple Watch as someone would have to rip my Apple Watch off my wrist to use it to get onto transit. Conversely, because iPhone theft is a thing that can be snatched out of your hand, I do not have it enabled for my iPhone. That’s because I want to authenticate before I pay for transit.

I traveled to the north part of the city to visit one of my clients which took about an hour. About 30 minutes later I hopped onto the subway again. Because it was within two hours, I should be eligible for a free transfer. And when I tapped, that’s exactly what happened. But four stations into my journey to my next client, I had to go back to the first client to fix a new issue. That took another 30 minutes which required me to pay another fare. At that point I needed to refill the PRESTO card on my Apple Watch. The quickest way to do that is to use your iPhone to do it either via the PRESTO app or on the card itself via the Watch app on your iPhone. Which means that if you travel with only your Apple Watch, you need to preload the PRESTO card on your Apple Watch so that you can get to and from your destination. I chose the latter option.

One thing that is handy is that it keeps track of every time you tap the card.

That’s something that you would normally have to go into the PRESTO app to see if you have a physical PRESTO card. Which assumes that you have the PRESTO card added to the app. If you just have the card, or it’s not in the app, you’re out of luck. One thing that I noted is that the subway is called the “Metro”. Interesting.

In short, using the PRESTO card on my Apple Watch was a total non-event. Everything worked perfectly and it was as if I was using a physical PRESTO card. If you were on the fence in terms of going to using your PRESTO card on your iPhone or Apple Watch, I would say go right ahead. From what I can tell, everything seems to work fine.

Your PRESTO Card Can Now Be Added To Apple Wallet…. Here’s How You Can Set That Up

Posted in Tips with tags on July 16, 2024 by itnerd

For a while now, Metrolinx who is the transit agency for the Greater Toronto And Hamilton Area has had the ability to have your PRESTO Card which is the contactless transit card that the agency prefers that you use on your Android phone. Apple users have wanted equal treatment, and today they finally got that equal treatment.

Now there is a catch that you should be aware of. There is a process to take a physical PRESTO Card and convert it to one that can be used in Apple Wallet. But the problem with that is it will “kill” the physical card. As in the physical card will no longer work after you go through this conversion process. Now for some, that’s no big deal. But it potentially leaves you without an option if you want to say, lend a card to someone who needs to travel on transit. Or perhaps you simply want a backup. And the fact that a new physical card is $10 isn’t exactly cool either. Thus, what I will do is walk you through two options. One being the conversion of a physical card to a card inside your Apple Wallet. And the second where I will show you how to create a brand new card in Apple Wallet.

There’s another thing that I should point out. OC Transpo which is the mass transit provider in Ottawa Ontario does not support paying for transit via this method. So if you use OC Transpo, do not follow these steps.

The prerequisite to doing some of this is that you need to have the latest version of the PRESTO app on your phone.

The version that I have is version 2.10. That came out a few hours ago. The second prerequisite is that you need a PRESTO Account that has your cards in it already. So if you don’t have a PRESTO Account with your cards in it, now is a good time to create one via the app.

Let’s start with creating a new card. And there seem to be two ways to do this. The quickest way to do this is to go Apple Wallet and click on the “+” in the top right. I’ve circled it in red to highlight it.

That will take you to this screen:

Click on Transit Card. Which takes you to this screen.

Choose PRESTO card, which takes you here.

Click on Continue. That takes you to this screen.

Here you can load funds onto the card via Apple Pay. In this example, I will add $10. Then I will click Add in the top right corner.

This is where I get prompted to add funds via Apple Pay. After I pay, I get this screen:

Now this seemed to take about three minutes to actually add the card to my iPhone. So be patient.

And the card is added to my iPhone. I will also note that this method appears not to require the PRESTO App to be installed on your iPhone.

Now I am not sure how I feel about Express Mode being enabled by default as I am big believer that you should authenticate to pay for something 100% of the time. So I may disable that later. Having said that, I am not done yet. I will need to add this to my Apple Watch. I’ll get to that later because I want to explore the other option to add a new card via the PRESTO App. Start with opening the app and clicking Add Card on the right.

Next choose PRESTO in Apple Wallet and click the button below it.

You get a tutorial that you can skip if you so choose.

You then need to Load Funds or Load A New Pass. The latter option is if you want to add a monthly student pass or some other pass for example as those passes can save you money. For this example, I will do the former.

I am going to add $10 to this card and click buy now. You’ll then be prompted to pay with either Apple Pay or via a credit or debit card that is in your account. Again, it took me a few minutes before the card was added to Apple Wallet.

So which option should you use? If you simply need a PRESTO Card, I’d use the first option. If you want to add a transit pass to said PRESTO Card, I would use the second option.

Now, back to adding your PRESTO Card to your Apple Watch. And it’s a bit odd because unlike credit and debit cards on your iPhone which replicate to your Apple Watch, the PRESTO card doesn’t do that. What you’re actually doing is moving it to your Apple Watch from your iPhone. And you can move it back from your Apple Watch to your iPhone if you so choose. It appears that PRESTO can only deal with one unique card and can’t support what I will call “cloned” cards. For example, the debit or credit card that you add to your iPhone gets “cloned” to your Apple Watch. But no such support exists for PRESTO cards. That would explain why PRESTO “kills” the physical card if you convert it to a digital one. It also means that if you want to have a PRESTO card on your Apple Watch, you either have to move it to the watch and forget about using it on your iPhone. Or you need to put a second card on your Apple Watch and manage two cards. Now let me play Devil’s Advocate. This approach makes sense because Apple Watch users are always wearing their Apple Watches. Thus they can tap their watch on a PRESTO card reader and pay for transit without taking out their phone. And seeing that smartphone thefts are on the rise in Toronto, that’s likely going to help to keep your phone safe.

With that out of the way, if you want to move your PRESTO card to your Apple Watch, you start the process with opening the Apple Watch app on your iPhone and clicking on Wallet & Apple Pay.

You can see the PRESTO card that I just added to my iPhone. Click the ADD button.

Here’s where you get warned about the fact that this process only moves the card but doesn’t clone it. Clicking Next gets you to this screen:

Adding the card seemed to take about 90 seconds. After that, I got this screen.

If you see this screen, the process worked. As for Express Mode being enabled by default, I am still not a fan of this. But the use case makes a bit more sense because I can just tap my Apple Watch on a PRESTO reader and hop onto a bus, streetcar or subway train. But if you want to put the card back on your iPhone, here’s how you do it:

  • Open the Apple Watch app on your iPhone
  • Pick the PRESTO card
  • Scroll down until you see “Add card to (insert name of your iPhone here)” and follow the prompts which are similar to the ones above.

Finally, let’s cover how to convert a physical PRESTO card over to a digital one. And I will remind you that once you convert the physical PRESTO card to a digital one, it will “kill” the physical card. So if you want a physical card for whatever reason, do not follow these instructions.

Converting a physical card to a digital one only seems possible via the Presto App. Assuming that you also have a PRESTO account with PRESTO cards in it, here’s what you need to do.

Pick the card from the list of PRESTO cards that appear in the app.

Next tap the Convert To Apple Wallet button.

Here you will see the warnings that not only that this process will “kill” your physical card, but using these cards with Apple Wallet isn’t supported by OC Transpo. Click Convert To Apple Wallet. At that point you will have to click through another warning about this. Nobody can say that Metrolinx hasn’t warned you about what’s going to happen next.

Next you need to hold your physical PRESTO card to the back of the iPhone. In my case, near the top of the iPhone worked for me. And taking off the case really helps with this. Then it will prompt you to add the card to Apple Wallet. When you see this prompt, the card is dead, and you are forced to complete the process of converting the physical card over to being a digital one which only takes a couple more clicks.

Now I put this together over a few hours after this functionality was announced by Metrolinx. So if you see ways that this can be improved, or anything that I got wrong, or even feedback on how this was done, please let me know in the comments and I will get back to you as quickly as I can.

Presto Card Support Coming To iPhone…. Soon…. Whatever That Means

Posted in Commentary with tags on May 18, 2024 by itnerd

For those of you who live in the Greater Toronto Area, your best way to use public transit is to use a Presto Card to pay for your trips on transit. Now Android users have had the ability to have their Presto Cards on their phones for a while now. iPhone users were out of luck. But that appears to be changing based on this Tweet:

I’m not sure what “soon” means to Metrolinx which is the organization that oversees transit in the Greater Toronto Area. I say that because this organization has a pretty poor track record of delivering projects on time and on budget. Thus “soon” could be next year or next week. Who knows? But the fact that they are saying something implies that maybe something is coming in the next few weeks? We will have to see and hopefully this doesn’t become another Metrolinx fiasco where they promise something but don’t deliver on time.

Greater Toronto Area Commuters Fume Online As Presto Card System Exhibits It’s Latest #Fail Moment

Posted in Commentary with tags on September 10, 2019 by itnerd

 

Once upon a time, those living in the Greater Toronto Area were promised a new and easy way to take transit in the area. That was called the Presto Card. Similar to London’s Oyster card, it promised the ability to tap on and ride transit as well as manage and track what you spend on transit. However the rollout of the Presto Card system for those living in the Greater Toronto Area has been painful to say the least as problem after problem has cropped up. Anyone that I speak to doesn’t like Presto and those negative feelings towards the Presto card are likely to continue with the latest issue with the card. Apparently since the end of August, the transaction history and remaining balance on the card hasn’t been updating for Presto Card users. Something that I’ve been able to reproduce. This is a screenshot from my Presto Card app on my iPhone XS:

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The card is my wife’s card and she uses it every single day. Yet there’s no updates on her travel activity since the end of August. This is the same when you check the Presto Card website. For example, when I try to list the activity history for September, this is what I get:

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Clearly there is something wrong on the Presto end of the fence. But in the interest of trying to make sure that it wasn’t me, I uninstalled and reinstalled the app and it didn’t change anything. On top of that I cleared the cache of my browser and tried a different browser when using the Presto website and that did not change anything either. Thus proving that Presto has an issue. This morning, I reported this to Presto via Twitter:

Out of interest, I took a look around Twitter and it seems that I am not alone:

https://twitter.com/Chibi_Matt/status/1165251089966534656

And from what I can tell, all the responses from Presto are less than helpful. Which means that negative feelings towards Presto will continue. If I were Presto, I’d admit to the fact that there is some sort of wide spread issue going on, I would apologize for said wide spread issue, then I would say when it is going to get fixed and make sure that they hit that target. And since this is the latest issue with the rollout of this fare payment system, Presto really needs to answer some tough questions about how they intend to reassure users of the Presto card system that they can get this back on track and that they can rely on this system. Because until they do that, people will continue to complain, negative press like this will be generated, and people will be less likely to take transit as they will have to deal with a fare payment system that clearly is sub optimal.

UPDATE: This appears to be resolved as of 9/11/2019.

UPDATE #2: The next day this issue resurfaced. Clearly Presto can’t get their act together.